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Job Posting Debate

  • 1.  Job Posting Debate

    Posted 19 days ago
    I'm curious about thoughts from colleagues regarding posting salaries in job postings, pros and cons.

    I'm a fan of doing it because I think it's one of the first filters for people to know if they're interested, if it fits their career path.

    I look forward to reading the opinions of others.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Bob Barry, CASP
    Executive Director, James R. Connor University Center
    University of Wisconsin - Whitewater
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  • 2.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 17 days ago
    I'm with you, Bob. 

    Our departments always post a salary range. 
    This is crucial for our salaried positions as we need applicants who are appropriately qualified to have clear expectations of the position AND the salary range we can offer. 
    As a state university in central Maine, our salaries have limited room for negotiation, but we offer excellent benefits and "the way life should be", so we try to promote that in our postings. 

    The posted wage can be a problem in recruiting hourly employees.
    We have a strict pay scale and hourly rates that are low by most industry standards and I believe we are required to post the hourly rate.
    It's hard to get job seekers to see past that dollar amount and understand the added value of the benefits package. Anyone have advice for that??

    Side note: As a job seeker, I'd be much less likely to apply for a position if I don't at least have a sense of the range. If nothing else, the lack of transparency is off-putting.  

    ~Nancy

    Nancy Soule Marks, CAP, OM, PM
    Personnel & Administration Manager
    University of Maine Auxiliary Services
    Suite 103 Hilltop  207.581.4709



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  • 3.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 17 days ago

    I am a huge fan of this, it makes no sense for someone to get to the interview stage only to find that the salary does not fit expectations.  Coming from a state which saw salaries freeze for nearly 10 years, it was often challenging when we did not post a salary. 

     

    The argument that it stops people from applying is a false argument, if someone will not take the job for the salary you can offer then you are doing them, and yourself a favor by posting it.  I am also a fan of honestly posting a "hiring range" so if a particular classification has an approved range between $40-80K, but you know in your budget you can't go beyond $60, then perhaps saying that the hiring range is between $55-60 depending upon experience and education gives both the employer and candidate a good sense of what to expect.

     

    Charles F. Farrell, M. Ed. CASP

    Executive Director for Business Development/UIC Student Centers

    Campus Auxiliary Services/Student Affairs

    The University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)

    UIC Student Center East, MC 117

    750 S. Halsted Street

    Suite 151

    Chicago, IL 60607

    312.996.0493 (office)

    715.225.2575 (mobile)

    ADM

     






  • 4.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 14 days ago
    Couldn't agree with you more Bob, as well as with the other comments posted here.  Hiring institutions should be as transparent and upfront with candidates as possible.  Postings should not only include salary and benefit information, they should also include links to that information on the institution's web site.  Doing so will improve the search process for all involved.

    Might it be time for placement events and posting sites to require that information in order to be eligible to participate...?

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    James Carley
    Keene State College
    Associate Director for Facilities & Business Operations
    Keene NH
    United States
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  • 5.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 13 days ago
    Hi All,

    I am a fan of posting a salary range. It transparently sets the expectations of the candidate, but leaves room for negotiation.

    Deanne Ellison, CASP
    Director of Auxiliary Services
    Executive Director, Binghamton Auxiliary Services Corporation
    Binghamton University

    "The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community." ~ Albert Einstein






  • 6.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 11 days ago
    As someone who has relatively recently been on the applicant side of the job search, I can say that posting the salary range at least does help in deciding whether to apply for a position or not. If I, or anyone else, won't accept a job because the salary range is too low why interview? This is an easy way to allow the candidates to self-select and save everyone time. If the salary is truly negotiable, that's the only time I'd say not to post the range. But, in public schools at least, that's rarely the case.

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    David Wahr, CASP
    Owens State Community College
    Director, Business Operations
    Toledo OH
    United States (567) 661-7401 (o)
    (567) 694-9443 (c)
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  • 7.  RE: Job Posting Debate

    Posted 10 days ago
    I also support posting the salary if it's a firm salary and/or small salary range.  For us at the University of Hawaii, the range is reeeeaaallllly wide, and we are required to post the range with job postings, and that creates problems for us.  Many people (understandably) think that if they have enough years of experience, that they can come in on the upper range of a 45-step salary range, but usually we're lucky if we can get them approved for the upper 25th percentile.  But that's for a whole nother discussion.  :)

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    Deborah Huebler, CASP
    University of Hawai'i at Manoa
    Director of Campus Services
    Honolulu HI
    United States
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